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| Author: | morgan [ 25 Oct 2017, 12:04 ] |
| Post subject: | new member here, yamadore ethics? |
Hi folks I just joined this fantastic and informative forum, gotta say i'm impressed with alot of the trees i'm seeing and look forward to sharing some development pics of my own projects. I'm a gardener in Devon and have been rescuing unwanted trees from gardens for years, mostly to plant out in the barren park near my house, but after a few neglected plants kinda accidentally bonsaid themselves in undersized or waterlogged pots I decided to start styling them up. I do have a question for yamadore enthusiasts (I am permanently skint so all of my potensai are collected), do any of you like to replenish areas that you collect from? I dream of reforesting Britain and like to plant native (or at least beneficial) species wherever I can, friends of mine see my growing enthusiasm for bonsai and yamadore as quite contrary to my beliefs and actions of the last few years. So yeah, just wondering if any of you are on the same sort of page, I mean we clearly all love trees and nature, but often the act of removing a tree from its natural setting casts us in a different light. morgan |
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| Author: | Paul B [Swindon] [ 25 Oct 2017, 15:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
I have never collected from the wild, but I do have a few trees that were collected from building sites, just before they were thrown on the bonfire. Have you spoken to your local Bonsai club, they may do organised digs in your area and re planting these areas is something they may be interested in.... http://swindon-bonsai.co.uk/2013/06/10/ ... societies/ just zoom into your area and click on the dot for details Or have a word with Neil at Springfield Bonsai Nursery, Cheriton Bishop.... http://www.devonbonsai.co.uk/ I know that when he started he was planting out several fields with woodland |
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| Author: | PeterBone [ 25 Oct 2017, 15:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
I think that in the UK almost everywhere that's not being used for human uses such as housing and agriculture is already forested. Any trees dug up are replaced by nature itself with negligible impact on the amount of trees. The only counter examples I can think of are in areas such as Dartmoor or the Scottish moors that were deforested by man a thousand or so years ago to the point where they couldn't recover. I'd be in support of replanting there if a tree is taken. |
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| Author: | Gary Jones [ 25 Oct 2017, 17:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
I've done very little of this myself. I'd agree with Peter - most trees taken are replaced easily by nature. We only collect relatively small trees in relatively small numbers. I think the issues are more to do with other uses of the land that deforest it. There are problems I'm sure with depletion in certain countries and places where the species and specimens are particularly suitable for bonsai and limited in number at the same time. Especially true if the trees are valuable. In those areas some control may need to take place. |
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| Author: | Smithy [ 25 Oct 2017, 17:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
I see many trees that are collected which i often think would have been better left where it was. I think having a business selling collected trees from the wild is questionable, just because you have permission doesn't mean its right.I wonder if any of the serious collecters in this country plant anything back out. |
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| Author: | Brendan [ 25 Oct 2017, 20:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
In acorn season fill my pockets with acorns and pop them onto holes, under rocks and anywhere they might germinate as I walk my dogs. Watch this space in 50 years... I have about 6 collected oaks so it's only right. |
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| Author: | Sizzla [ 26 Oct 2017, 05:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
I've never collected from the wild, it makes me slightly uncomfortable when people post amazing yamadori but a lot of that could be jealousy because I don't have access to that kind of material. If I did have access I probably would dig some up though. Most naturally stunted trees have no future of becomimg a full grown tree and would be much happier in a pot I would have thought? I like the idea of replanting but nature can probably pick a better place than the place the tree was dig from |
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| Author: | morgan [ 26 Oct 2017, 08:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
I see what people are saying, I kinda get that nature might be better able to replace trees in certain settings, and I'm glad dartmoor was mentioned, its these uplands that I think we should be replanting, even removing an unwanted tree from a garden is damaging overall to the uk tree population, amount of carbon being sequestered etc, (even more notable when young trees are collected that could have grown to full size had they not been potted) shouldn't the bonsai community be in touch with reforesting charities? something to think about anyway. I'll be back later, gotta go make a nice bench and then harvest a vineyard! morgan |
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| Author: | morgan [ 26 Oct 2017, 08:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
peter, what about planting on dartmoor or your nearest highlands whenever any tree is collected from anywhere? would be epic to have a forested dartmoor full of lynx and stuff |
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| Author: | morgan [ 30 Oct 2017, 09:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: new member here, yamadore ethics? |
peter, thanks for the bonsai club information, Ill raise it with them and see if we cant get a bonsai army of reforesters on the go! |
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