can anyone explain the benefits of the alternative vote, which are about to have a referendum on as i cant get my head round it at all. do you think its a better way to vote etc
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| Author: | RoyH [ 14 Apr 2011, 16:26 ] |
| Post subject: | alternative vote |
can anyone explain the benefits of the alternative vote, which are about to have a referendum on as i cant get my head round it at all. do you think its a better way to vote etc
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| Author: | RoyH [ 14 Apr 2011, 17:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
Quote: first passed the post makes sense to me, i cant for the life of me understand how the least vote should be added to the next in line until you get a winner, you either win having gained most votes or you dont, having not gained enough votes, how or why should they add votes together to get a winner 
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| Author: | Mikey [ 14 Apr 2011, 20:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
It's Cleggys pansy way of keeping his dosy liberal foot in the door and the "coalitions" way of bleeding more money out of the private sector into the public sector. |
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| Author: | Des [ 14 Apr 2011, 20:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
Mikey wrote: It's Cleggys pansy way of keeping his dosy liberal foot in the door TRUE TRUE! |
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| Author: | littleoak [ 14 Apr 2011, 21:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
The theory of Alternative vote for me has a few worthwhile benefits; 1. It has the potential to make every vote more more powerful, particularly for seats that are heavily contested and close. The first past the post system means that a candidate can become an MP even though a majority of constituants voted for someone else. Here is a very crude example; 34% Tory Vote, 33 % Labour, 33 % Liberal i.e. Tory win despite 66% against. Under first past the post 66% of the vote is redundant and a minority opinion has the ear of parliment. However if alternative voting is used the 66% (majority) could be so against the thought of a Tory MP that there is a potential for a Labour or Liberal win and therefore the majority gets the ear of Parliment. This is what should happen in a true democracy. EVERY vote should count. 2. It involves more of a thought process for voting as it should be. The process of voting affects many lives for many years and should be done with utmost care, not something that can be done and forgotten about within 2 seconds. 3. An alternative vote will not effect the result of a partizan seat. i.e. Labour will always win labour mainstay seats, Tories will always win Tory mainstay seats. I am a fan of the alternative vote, I am not one for opinions but I am all for changing the system that makes these career politicians more accountable to the voting public. |
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| Author: | RoyH [ 14 Apr 2011, 21:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
thank you littleoak, for that easier to understand explanation 
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| Author: | John M [ 15 Apr 2011, 08:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
I like the idea of the AV system, but I shall still vote for FPTP, because: At the last election, some voted Tory on the basis of their manifesto, some voted Lib Dem on the basis of their manifesto. Now that they are in coalition, which wasn't mentioned before the election either, they have jettisoned both their manifestos and have started legislating totally new stuff that was in neither original party manifesto. I want to know what the beggars are going to do before I vote for them. I don't want to find out what they intend to do after I vote for them. Did anyone notice, by the way, Andrew Lansley apologising at the RSN conference, where 99.999999999% recurring of the delegates voted 'no confidence' in his 'reforms' to the NHS? What was his apology about? He was "sorry that he hadn't communicated his ideas clearly enough" - what arrogant claptrap. The problem is, if he could only see it, that he communicated his ideas all too clearly - everybody saw them, everybody knows (except millionaire him and his millionaire master and their millionaire friends) that they were not signalled in the run-up to the election, nobody wants them except a few GP practices with an eye to the main chance, and the implicit notion that if only he had been clearer we would all have approved his bloody ideas stinks - step 1 on the way in due course to a privatised American system where if I'm not insured I don't get treatment. I'm so absolutely incandescent about Blair! Remember - millionaires know best. I refuse to disclose to anybody, by the way, which way I vote.  (Two rants in one week.... Must watch my BP). J.
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| Author: | RoyH [ 15 Apr 2011, 08:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
whew John, i bet you feel better now
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| Author: | SanSan [ 15 Apr 2011, 09:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
Go water your trees John. Then....... a nice cup of coffee afterwards! There, you'll looking better already!! Regards Sandra |
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| Author: | Jack [ 15 Apr 2011, 11:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: alternative vote |
I feel it is a step in the right direction and will be voting for it. |
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