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| Author: | crockatt [ 31 Aug 2013, 18:46 ] |
| Post subject: | is it possible |
 Right here goes with my burning question, i have had this tree for 15yrs but believe it to be 20yrs+, i think its a beech (correct me if wrong), as you can guess it has been totally neglected and in the same pot for all of that time, but found myself looking at it and thinking, is it possible to turn it into a "proper" bonsai ? And if so where do i start. i hope the pic link works
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| Author: | NickB [ 31 Aug 2013, 21:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
It looks to be an Ash. Fraxinus Excelsior. These can be used for Bonsai, but I am not keen because the leaves are large and compound, and the twigs are stout and look to be difficult to get good ramification. Better native species would be Elm, Hawthorn, Scots Pine, Yew, etc. There are some good YouTube videos now. These would be a good starting point to give you more ideas. |
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| Author: | arihato [ 31 Aug 2013, 21:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
Crockatt, we will correct you even if you're right... It is a Fraxinus excelsior, an Ash, not the easiest of subjects but possible. It has some movement in the trunk, thats good, it may even have some nice root flare hidden in the mud. You start by getting to know the species, online, read till the eyes drop out. Get some hands-on help from a club or a Bonsai-ist in you neck of the woods. Plan a repot with root pruning in spring when the buds are just about to burst. |
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| Author: | crockatt [ 31 Aug 2013, 22:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
Thanks guys will now commence reading till my eyes drop out !!!! 
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| Author: | Bill [ 01 Sep 2013, 15:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
ash for sure. difficult ive found. i have some for many years but havent figured out how to get decent growth in a pot... |
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| Author: | crockatt [ 02 Sep 2013, 08:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
Have been reading up etc, and i know to wait till bud burst for root pruning, and to hard prune in winter (when exactly in winter i dont know), but wondered is it ok to do a light prune now, like taking off the 2 branches that are sticking straight up, or will i leave till the winter prune. Thanks guys |
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| Author: | stymie [ 02 Sep 2013, 10:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
Yes, take them off now. On your other question, Winter is the time between leaf fall and re-growth. A period of hibernation. |
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| Author: | crockatt [ 02 Sep 2013, 11:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
Thanks stymie, so can you hard prune at any time between leaf fall and regrowth, or is it best done, at the end of winter or start etc, sorry to be sopernickerty!!!! |
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| Author: | arihato [ 02 Sep 2013, 12:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
All things you do in Bonsai have knock on effects in the next year(s), pruning is no different. Pruning is part of the tools you can use to achieve a certain goal. By reducing the crown and keeping the roots intact; you cause the tree to sprout more vigorous. Large supply - smaller demand, hormones get produced to stimulate sprouting By reducing the crown and root pruning; your tree will shoot minimal to moderate Reducing both supply and demand, the tree needs to recover and the growth of new roots and new shoots is slowed. By pruning in late winter, you reduce the amount of reserves the tree had stored in branches and trunk. The tree will react with shorter internodes and smaller leaves. By pruning at the beginning of summer, you take away the production facility, but the roots still have a large supply causing abundant regrowth with probably large internodes. Crockatt, the above is a simplified story, in Bonsai everything has to do with everything, its what makes it exciting experienced growers and baffling for beginners. Its also why it is necessary to learn about horticulture and study why trees do what they do when they do it...... |
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| Author: | Bill [ 03 Sep 2013, 15:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is it possible |
particular to ash, ive observed you can root prune hard without much danger but then it may invest all the following seasons growth in roots. it will leaf out but you may not see many, or any, shoots extend. it does not seem to follow the shoot grow = root growth formula like most species, perhaps down to the compound leaves and the drain on energy it must take to put them out. it may then just reclaim that energy with its big leaf area, without a need to invest more in shoot growth. ive not been brave enough to try defoliating yet... |
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