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Author:  Clint [ 23 Apr 2014, 23:40 ]
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Can anyone recommend a high Nitrogen feed please?
Cheers

Author:  arihato [ 24 Apr 2014, 00:01 ]
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Brand is not important, NPK numbers are.
I use 10-4-6, I bet if you look at a good garden centre you can find a few good fertilisers.
As long as it is not for Azaleas, for they need special food, you can use whatever has the right amounts. Some have micro nutrients added, some have amino acids added.
Walter P. from Germany uses cheap Aldi or Lidl fertiliser.

I don't like spending a fortune on "Bonsai" fertiliser, it is like "Bonsai" seeds, plants can't read the label.
If I would calculate what I would have spend in the 35 years of growing Bonsai, if I would have used 'green king' for instance. Instead I buy bulk, 25kg bags of 10-4-6, a good organic agricultural fertiliser.
For the difference I could fill my wine cellar.

Author:  keithmart [ 24 Apr 2014, 07:35 ]
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hi

look for lawn fertilizer. that is a high nitrogen feed.

not the ones with weedkiller in them though

Author:  Deano [ 24 Apr 2014, 07:55 ]
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A fairly cheap hi nitrogen one I use is on offer at coop and tesco - miracle gro

Author:  Drew [ 24 Apr 2014, 08:57 ]
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Deano wrote:
A fairly cheap hi nitrogen one I use is on offer at coop and tesco - miracle gro


You mean: Miracle-Gro Sulphate of Ammonia Vegetable Food ??

http://www.greenfingers.com/product.asp ... wgodOVAAmQ

Author:  Mikey [ 24 Apr 2014, 09:06 ]
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Have a read of this Clint http://www.dirtdoctor.com/Synthetic-vs- ... _vq131.htm

Author:  paulpash [ 24 Apr 2014, 09:43 ]
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I use Chempak High Nitrogen feed - lasts a few seasons for me :smallthumb:

I also use chicken poo twice a year May & August....

Author:  John M [ 24 Apr 2014, 11:18 ]
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Mikey wrote:


That's a very interesting article, but I think it makes life far too complicated for daily use. Basically, as a very old botanist, I see the difference in much simpler terms:

i) Inorganic fertiliser: NPK etc in whatever proportion, but basically molecules of N salts, P salts and K salts dissolved in a solute and poured on the soil. The plant roots absorb the molecules (plants can't read the label) and provided you haven't absolutely over-fed, the job is done. Advantage - quick, easy to measure accurately, reasonably cheap. Disadvantage - doesn't do much for the quality or structure of the soil.

ii) Organic fertiliser - NPK as for inorganic but dissolved in a much more complex organic mix of various natural substances many of which play an important part in improving soil quality. The general term for such substances would be humus - "The organic constituent of soil, formed by the decomposition of plant materials" (from my Shorter OED). Advantage - does a lot for the quality of the soil (but as for inorganic too much isn't necessarily helpful). Disadvantage - you can never be quite sure what you are giving the soil.

Finally, and another reason why organic is important, organic fertiliser (humus) can contain many molecules which you can't quantify, but which benefit plants by improving soil structure and root health. Trouble is, unless you are a PhD botanist (and I'm not) you just don't know what they are.

So which way? Organic or inorganic? My solution is to feed with inorganic (Miracle Gro for high N, Tomato food for low N), and improve soil quality separately by addition of peat-free compost (or peat, if you like denuding the planet of its natural resources).

J.

Author:  Bill [ 24 Apr 2014, 16:12 ]
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John M wrote:
...salts dissolved in a solute and poured on the soil...

just for the record the salts are the solute, dissolved in the solvent (water) ;-)

another way to go is to use an organic liquid feed ("Biogrow" is one i have used) but in a free draining substrate it may get washed out before the plant and microorganisms in the soil have had time to use it.

Author:  Deano [ 24 Apr 2014, 16:31 ]
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John M wrote:
(or peat, if you like denuding the planet of its natural resources).

J.


My peat will go straight back in the garden after use....

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