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Author: | paulpash [ 10 Oct 2016, 09:01 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scots Pine Pruning |
Gary Jones wrote: A variant to this would be to keep three buds - 2 as described as above and one dominant. The dominant one will keep the other two small the following spring and then be removed in the summer leaving the two smaller ones. I don't claim much expertise in this area but that's how my teacher does it - he says that's the way it's done in Japan (he is Japanese). Thanks for adding this point Gary, it's the pine equivalent of the 'sacrifice growth' I discussed in the Field Maple thread. Just make sure you remember to come back later & prune it away before it becomes a problem. One observation with mugos is that often they will only set one bud at each branch tip - Mugos tend to have fatter tertiary branch structure because of this. |
Author: | Bill [ 10 Oct 2016, 16:29 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scots Pine Pruning |
bud selection can also be done in spring. this is my preferred time, as anything can happen over winter; buds can get damaged so leaving them on until the storms are done is what i do. i have also found that bud selection in spring can encourage back budding in a strong scots. as for the resin, i wouldn't waste the cut paste, a bit of tape will keep it just at the cut and can be removed after a couple of weeks, but not essential imo. |
Author: | Brahma [ 11 Oct 2016, 09:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scots Pine Pruning |
Thanks again for the feedback and comments gents. I'm assuming I can treat my Mugo pine in much the same way as it's also a 2 needle - 1 growth flush pine? |
Author: | TomB [ 11 Oct 2016, 10:44 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scots Pine Pruning |
Bill wrote: as for the resin, i wouldn't waste the cut paste, a bit of tape will keep it just at the cut and can be removed after a couple of weeks, but not essential imo. I agree - especially if you have mature flaky bark, cut paste will make a real mess of it that will be very difficult to clean off. |
Author: | Bill [ 11 Oct 2016, 15:15 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scots Pine Pruning |
Brahma wrote: Thanks again for the feedback and comments gents. I'm assuming I can treat my Mugo pine in much the same way as it's also a 2 needle - 1 growth flush pine? you can... more or less... like Paul said, they do tend to make one terminal bud and from what i have seen, late summer pruning causes different budding - scots will bud at the tips (as you have seen), mugo seems to bud further back closer to the base of that year's candle. energy is visibly redistributed in both, so weak buds on either will become stronger for next year and this redistribution may also get you some back budding. the main difference growing/training them is strength and vigour as far as i can see, though i have a dwarf mugo so no surprises there. depending on what you have, you just may have to work it on a longer timescale compared to scots, which is also a lot more tolerant of rootwork and overall quicker to develop. |
Author: | Brahma [ 11 Oct 2016, 15:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scots Pine Pruning |
Brilliant, thanks Bill. I've last question on this subject for now - when is he best time to wire Scott's and Mugo's? Is it ok to do that now? Or is the a spring / summer job? |
Author: | Bill [ 11 Oct 2016, 15:42 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scots Pine Pruning |
if its, for instance, a rough wiring to pull branches more or less where you want them to go, you can do that whenever. if you are doing detail wiring where you need to strip needles to make clean tufts, this tends to be done from around mid-october onwards, depending where you are, though tbh i haven't got that far yet. if you want to do major manipulation of trunks, i have done this successfully in summer while its in active growth - talking about scots here, haven't done it with mugo. |
Author: | Brahma [ 16 Oct 2016, 10:44 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scots Pine Pruning |
Great! Thanks again Bill and Paul for your help - gonna get my wire out and try and get some movement into my Mugo now!! |
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