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Author:  Brendan [ 01 Sep 2017, 09:34 ]
Post subject:  Raised root lonicera

This was growing under a hedge I removed a couple of years ago. These exposed roots were buried. I opted to plant the tree standing proud and I have twice repotted it to get the roots more and more elongated and uncovered.

Over the weekend I'll repot it again even higher, and maybe remove the central root so that it stands on only the outer rim of roots.

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I have no plan yet for the top. I am loving the berries!

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Author:  Gary Jones [ 01 Sep 2017, 11:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Raised root lonicera

I don't think I've seen berries on mine. Maybe mine are too young. Are they all that colour?

Author:  Brendan [ 01 Sep 2017, 12:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Raised root lonicera

Yup same colour. I have a feeling that lonicera will produce berries only on un-pruned branches. I have loads of them and have never had a berry yet, but I am always messing with the branches. This was left to grow.

That said, I can't be sure what variety this is, as it was found under a hedge - maybe it is a characteristic of this one that my others don't possess?

Author:  Gary Jones [ 01 Sep 2017, 12:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Raised root lonicera

Interesting I've got a couple I've let grow freely this year (based on your thoughts re thickening) but no berries on them so maybe it's age also as they are quite small. FWIW I'm not getting particularly thick growth on the ones that have grown freely although I do have loads of foliage. I might leave them another year or stick them in the ground (or give up and go mame / shohin)

Author:  NickB [ 01 Sep 2017, 13:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Raised root lonicera

Lonicera Pileata. Box-leaved Honeysuckle.

Bigger leaves than Nitida, but very good for Bonsai nonetheless. Lovely berries, it reminds me of an old plum tree in an orchard.

I'm liking that one, Bren. It has a lovely movement in the trunk, and branches and foliage pads should be quick to form using the clip-n-grow technique.

Author:  Gary Jones [ 01 Sep 2017, 14:11 ]
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Mine are all Nitida. Do they not have berries - is that the answer?

Author:  Brendan [ 01 Sep 2017, 14:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Raised root lonicera

Gary - Try root pruning to aide the thickening? Lift them, and cut away the thickest roots to promote fibrous roots. Also, I found mine thickened up in the ground really fast when the tree was surrounded by cat litter in a hole in the ground. Fibrous roots around the tree, and some thicker roots that ran away into the clay.

As lonicera as massively rhizogenic (great word - thanks PaulPash) you can safely press them to put out new roots, widening the base. This should accelerate thickening if it has stalled. Just don't remove any leaves when you remove roots.

Author:  bluesky [ 01 Sep 2017, 15:32 ]
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Wow there are dozens of species of honeysuckle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeysuckle

I've never seen berries on mine, but the yellow and white flowers look like the Japanese Honeysuckle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonicera_japonica. Mine is currently in the garden hedge - not yet a bonsai. Will be soon though.

Brendan did yours give white and yellow flowers, about 1-3 months ago? If so, I guess it's Lonicera Japonica.

Gary, here it shows red berries for Lonicera nitida. https://plantsam.com/lonicera-nitida/

Author:  Bill [ 05 Sep 2017, 18:21 ]
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mines got berries too. stating the obvious but they will only make berries if they flowered earlier in the season. i usually pick the fruit off early. i havent seen a nitida flower so far but they should make berries when they do.

not sure about this idea Brendan, its the kind of thing i have pursued in the past but was never happy with and always end up restarting the project years down the line. tbh, i don't think that base will work with that trunk, so i would say best use of the material would be to make a twisty interesting trunkline extending off the main branch and layer that off later with the main branch as the first trunk section. there is potential there to make a technically better tree from this free material given how easy they root.

Author:  Brendan [ 25 Apr 2019, 22:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Raised root lonicera

I have left this one to develop something up top, never knowing what it would do.

I used an almost impossibly difficult technique on this tree, one that I found virtually unobtainable from youtube, blogs, magazines etc. However I think I'm getting better at it.

Its called benign neglect.

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