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| Author: | BONZAIJACK [ 27 Jan 2018, 14:35 ] |
| Post subject: | oak collecting advice |
Hi all weetreeers I have been offered this oak tree from my dads allotment  do they back bud well? convert leaders well? as u can see someone has already topped it for me My plan is to lift it carefully soon and got it in a nice big training pot be4 spring Any advice on oaks welcome as not grown one be4 Thanks P.s sorry for sideways pic I can't turn them around as my dad tuck them that way up!!! |
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| Author: | stymie [ 27 Jan 2018, 14:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
Oaks seem to do better if left soaking in a bucket of water for a few days before potting them up. Your's will need some lower branches I feel. They do bud back but are slow growers. Very rewarding when trained up. The heavy branches at the top will need to go with the chop. It will be interesting to see a close-up photo of the nebari when the surrounding weeds are cleared. A good one is important.  20180127_113709 by Don. Smith, on Flickr
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| Author: | lameusername [ 27 Jan 2018, 15:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
yeah agree with Stymie, they move well but often slow to grow new roots, keep well drained. watch out for lots of budding from the very base of the tree, might to pick these buds off if there not where you want them. had sucess with chopping the tree to the height you want as a bonsai, not leaving upper most branches as all the strength and new buds go there, even apprantly bare trunks will sprout many shoots i've found if fed well. |
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| Author: | oakrod [ 27 Jan 2018, 15:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
lameusername wrote: yeah agree with Stymie, they move well but often slow to grow new roots, keep well drained. watch out for lots of budding from the very base of the tree, might to pick these buds off if there not where you want them. had sucess with chopping the tree to the height you want as a bonsai, not leaving upper most branches as all the strength and new buds go there, even apprantly bare trunks will sprout many shoots i've found if fed well. not sure on keeping oaks well drained as they hate drying out .. in the wild they often grow next to ponds or rivers where they never dry out..even on tidal rivers where the roots a bathed in sea water twice a day...so i keep mine wet all the time. i even do repotting in the rain to stop fine roots drying out.it is surprising how quick this can happen on a nice day |
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| Author: | stymie [ 27 Jan 2018, 15:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
Hence my water bucket tip. |
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| Author: | BONZAIJACK [ 27 Jan 2018, 17:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
stymie wrote: Oaks seem tovedo better if left soaking inava bucket of water for a few days before potting them up. Your's will need some lower branches I feel. They do bud back but are slow growers. Very rewarding when trained up. The heavy branches at the top will need to go with the chop. It will be interesting to see a close-up photo of the nebari when the surrounding weeds are cleared. A good one is important. 20180127_113709 by Don. Smith, on FlickrCheers for the good tip gents And stymie what do you mean by removing heavy branches at the top? Get rid of all of them and leave it as just a trunk and let it bud and grow out for new branchs? Or just the the ones at the very top and leave the lower heavy ones to create a new leader? |
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| Author: | paulpash [ 27 Jan 2018, 19:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
They are a slow tree to develop but you can thread graft branches where you want them - I sold a tree a few seasons ago that had all it's branches grafted. My question to you though is it's ramrod straight and nowhere to cut back to to create movement. If it's free and you want to play about with oak then go for it but be aware this is a VERY long term project for it to look good. |
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| Author: | Gary Jones [ 27 Jan 2018, 20:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
paulpash wrote: They are a slow tree to develop but you can thread graft branches where you want them - I sold a tree a few seasons ago that had all it's branches grafted. My question to you though is it's ramrod straight and nowhere to cut back to to create movement. If it's free and you want to play about with oak then go for it but be aware this is a VERY long term project for it to look good. That would be my point as well. Not much interest in this and it'll take a lot of work to create any. You'd need to chop right back and regrow the next trunk section and primary branches. |
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| Author: | TomB [ 28 Jan 2018, 10:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
Agreed. This material has very little to recommend it, other than the price. |
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| Author: | Nigel Croome [ 28 Jan 2018, 12:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oak collecting advice |
Hi I have 5 Oaks 3 of them being our native tree and 2 Sessile Oaks. If you collect the tree now make sure that when you get it back home not to root wash it as Oaks need the friendly white micro fungus that is in the soil for good root function and root development. When it comes to potting up the tree plant it in 40% Tescos low dust cat litter, 40% Sani Cat Pink cat litter and 20% 10mm grit this mixture will give the tree quick and fine root development. Don mentioned leaving the tree in water for a couple of days which does work if you collect Oaks in August (probably the time of year to collect Oak) but this time of year I wouldn't soak it I would make sure that the tree is watered well every day except for days when it's raining heavily. If the tree responds well in the Spring don't be tempted too fertilize it leave it to July and give it a light liquid feed at about half strength, don't feed it August and in September give it a feed at the recommended dose on the bottle (I always use liquid fertilizer on newly collected trees as it leaves no residue in the soil over Winter that can turn acidic and burn the new soft roots). Now a couple of people have said that Oaks are slow to develop but I haven't found that to be the case so the picture of the tree I've put on here was collected February 2013. Hope this is of help. Cheers Nigel. |
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