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Author:  Rivulus123 [ 21 Jun 2020, 16:58 ]
Post subject:  Consequential Snippets

Today the urge was overwhelming, I had some new Bonsai scissors and wire staring me right in the face. Should I or shouldn't I? was the question running around in my head.

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Before I got the chainsaw out lol

Impatience got the better of me, you all knew it would. So I had a little go at shaping and wiring my Chinese Elm. All went pretty much to plan and I managed to get the 2mm wire on without breaking any twigs or branches. The wiring ain't pretty like some Bonsai aficionados but it's serving a purpose and it allowed me to bend a few branches into shape (to where I think I wanted them or they needed to be) even though it might be frowned upon in certain upper echelons. I didn't want the branches going downward like most commercial CE, so I kind of lifted them up a little and put a slight kink/twist into them if that makes sense.

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Full Tree Snipped and Wired

To me anyway, it's looking more like a little tree now, more open yet bald.
There are a few annoying areas still I would like to address before this season is over.
There is a bud emanating low down on the trunk, I want to keep this and develop it as the lowest branch, I know it will take quite some time but is my assumption good in the eyes of the knowledgeable.
Secondly the branch I have highlighted, Should I remove this entirely? I think it is cluttering things up a little, then what do I know about these things lol.

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Looking forward to hearing your advice. Go easy it's my first time with the wire and snips.
Don't worry all the tools are safely back in there pouches, my craving has been satisfied at least for now..... or unless I'm instructed to do otherwise.
What would be my next baby step?
Regards
C

Author:  Sizzla [ 21 Jun 2020, 17:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consequential Snippets

I think that bud is way too low to be a branch but could be useful in thickening the base.

The branch covering the trunk is hiding some nice movement there so it's not in an ideal place, where does it originate from? If you turn the tree 180 degrees it would make a nice back branch to give depth.

I think overall you've made a nice shape but there are some flaws to be addressed in the future

The top section of the trunk is straight giving a stretched neck appearance but you can hide this with foliage in time, and the two branches above the red circle look at the same height, the right should be lowered just a bit and the left raised just a bit.
The trunk exits the soil at 90 degrees, so an angle change in the future will remedy that.
And lastly the lowest branch is a bit too low to my eye, you could consider making it a sub trunk to fill that gap on the right or removing it.

These are just ideas for the distant future and many will disagree with my thoughts so take them with a pinch of salt. as you look at the tree over time you will notice things that you're not quite happy with that you hadn't noticed before and so it's good to not make decisions straight away but live with it a while and see what emerges

Most importantly well done for having a go and not being too shy about attacking it, it's the best way to learn afterall

Author:  Rivulus123 [ 21 Jun 2020, 18:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consequential Snippets

Thank You, for the reply Sizzla.
A few points to consider. I'm well aware that it probably isn't the best of trees, to begin with so it doesn't matter if I make a pig's ear of things here and there as I wander this path. It's good to know I have a few options left. Maybe I should not have touched the apex. I hadn't even considered changing the angle of the trunk when I re-pot in the Spring (good call for alerting me to this aspect). Not sure about what you mean to do with the lower branch on the right. I don't wish to remove it. Do you mean to try and fill the space above it by angling it upward in some fashion?
Thanks for your input
Regards
C

Author:  richardb [ 21 Jun 2020, 19:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consequential Snippets

Well done. Remove the marked branch ,it is on the inside of the bend , which is technically incorrect. The work on the ramification of all the others. Let the shoots extend until the tree looks a mess and then towards autumn cut back to 2 leaves

Author:  Sizzla [ 21 Jun 2020, 19:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consequential Snippets

Yeah that's one option, because of the disproportionate gap between that branch and the one above it, you eye will always be drawn through it. This time next year you might have grown extra branches from the trunk to fill that area anyway though, and an angle change might make that problem irrelevant anyway. Tilting towards the viewer can help to compress the appearance of gaps and make foliage pads look fuller, and a tilt to one side also will make the tree appear shorter. It could all be completely different at that stage. I'm always redesigning my trees, as they grow and present new options and my eye
becomes more discerning, that's half the fun

Author:  Rivulus123 [ 21 Jun 2020, 19:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consequential Snippets

Thanks for the input guys. it's always very much appreciated
I have addressed the disproportionate gap on the right-hand side, by starting the branch upward then splaying out to the right. (I thought I might as well do it now and not disturb the tree all the time) Your right Sizzla it does look better. Once my curved branch cutter arrives I knock off that inside branch Richard and let things go a little wild before snipping back once again.
The tree is growing via new bud and leaves but it's not going mental like some I see in the vids, should I provide a more open aspect/position with more sun?
How long must the wire remain in place, 6 weeks?
Again thanks for taking the time to reply
Regards
C

Author:  Sizzla [ 22 Jun 2020, 17:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consequential Snippets

Wire stays on until it starts to bite in, if only a few wraps are biting you can just snip those ones off and leave the rest on.
Most trees will do best in full sun but even in morning sun mine grow well. Since it's now growing it will benefit from more sun and a bit of feed.

Spring is normally when you will see those long shoots going mental in the space of a few weeks and for the rest of the season it will grow a bit slower. I bet by the end of the season it will be looking v lush.

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