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Author:  Koren [ 29 Aug 2020, 23:21 ]
Post subject:  Prunus Mume Beni Chidori

Back when I was first getting interested in bonsai, I tried to acquire as many species that I thought looked cool from Harry Tomlinson's Complete Book of Bonsai that I could. As such, I have a grafted Prunus Mume Beni Chidori. This year it's really taken off, with a few shoots probably 10ft high now. I reckon it still needs a good few years to develop, but I saw something recently that said they don't air layer very well, which was what I was planning to get rid of the graft. Are there other solutions (thread grafting?) or is it better off as a garden tree?

Author:  JeffS [ 05 Oct 2020, 18:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Prunus Mume Beni Chidori

I imagine you've already had this answered elsewhere, but if not, I tried about 8 air layers from my grafted Beni-Chidori this Spring. By the end of Spring, 4 had packed out the black plastic with radial roots, I removed from the parent and potted on. They're doing very well.

At the end of August another had a reasonable amount of roots, so I took it off and part defoliated, I'll know how this has worked out next Spring.

The last 3 had callused but not rooted, nor died, they'd managed to bridge the layer gap. So I removed the callus, and re-cut further up, will know next Spring.

I'd say it's definitely worthwhile. I used Clonex gel rooting hormone, 2 handfuls of sphagnum moss, soaked and squeezed, wrapped in bin liner, taped both ends, usual stuff really. Didn't water the bags. One thing I'd do differently is fashion a collar of plastic (like DPM plastic or the end of a tub) and fix it just below the layer location to spread the roots out. They come out fleshy and fragile, so can't really be adjusted when you cut off the layer. It'll give you a head start on the nebari.

Hope you try it. If anyone has other cultivars and want to trade, give me a shout! I'd really like a white / pale cream / yellow one.

Author:  sputnik [ 06 Oct 2020, 10:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Prunus Mume Beni Chidori

JeffS wrote:
I imagine you've already had this answered elsewhere, but if not, I tried about 8 air layers from my grafted Beni-Chidori this Spring. By the end of Spring, 4 had packed out the black plastic with radial roots, I removed from the parent and potted on. They're doing very well.

At the end of August another had a reasonable amount of roots, so I took it off and part defoliated, I'll know how this has worked out next Spring.

The last 3 had callused but not rooted, nor died, they'd managed to bridge the layer gap. So I removed the callus, and re-cut further up, will know next Spring.

I'd say it's definitely worthwhile. I used Clonex gel rooting hormone, 2 handfuls of sphagnum moss, soaked and squeezed, wrapped in bin liner, taped both ends, usual stuff really. Didn't water the bags. One thing I'd do differently is fashion a collar of plastic (like DPM plastic or the end of a tub) and fix it just below the layer location to spread the roots out. They come out fleshy and fragile, so can't really be adjusted when you cut off the layer. It'll give you a head start on the nebari.

Hope you try it. If anyone has other cultivars and want to trade, give me a shout! I'd really like a white / pale cream / yellow one.


That is an extraordinarily success rate for Prunus mume but I have also had success with Beni Chidori layers. They are not a reliable species for layering in my experience and this may be why they have such a bad reputation.
Give it a go. If you have lots of surplus growth what’s to lose?

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